ʻO ka ʻokoʻa, ka moʻolelo huakaʻi a me nā nūhou wahaheʻe o Pakistan

ʻEhiku makahiki aku nei a ma koʻu hele ʻana ma ke kaʻaahi i Berlin mai Frankfurt, ua hālāwai au me nā poʻe mai Pakistan e hele ana i ITB. I loko o nā hola 6 ma ke kaʻaahi, ua loaʻa iaʻu kahi manawa kūpono e lohe mai iā lākou i ka mea a Pakistan e hāʻawi aku ai i nā mea mākaʻikaʻi ma nā ʻano he nui, akā ʻo ka hapa nui o ka kamaʻilio e pili ana i ka mākaʻikaʻi huakaʻi ma Pakistan, kahi o ka mea kaulana. K2, ua mākaukau ka mauna kiʻekiʻe ʻelua o ka honua e hoʻohauʻoli i nā malihini. Mai ia manawa, manaʻolana wau e hui pū me ke Kuhina Kūʻai ʻo Pakistan, e aʻo mai iā ia e pili ana i kona ʻāina. Ma hope mai, lilo mākou i hoaaloha, a ua hui mākou no nā makahiki he nui i ka ITB. ʻO koʻu mau hoaaloha ʻo Mr. Amjad Ayub, ka pelekikena o ka Pakistan Association of Tour Operatorsm a me Mr. Nazir Sabir.

Ma ka ITB o keia makahiki, ua halawai au me Mr. Amjad ma ia hotele hookahi, a ua hoike mai oia ia'u e hele ana o Mr. Maulana Atta ur-Rehman, Kuhina o ka Makaikai ma Pakistan, i ITB. Ua noi au i manawa maikaʻi e kamaʻilio pū me ia, a ua hālāwai mākou me ia ma ke kahua kūʻai Pakistan.

eTN: E ka Mea Hanohano, aia ʻoe me 10 mau mea hōʻikeʻike mai Pakistan e hoʻolaha i ka mākaʻikaʻi i kou ʻāina. Hiki iā ʻoe ke haʻi iā mākou i ka mea e ʻike ai ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi?

Maulana Atta ur-Rehman: He ʻāina waiwai ʻo Pakistan i ka ʻokoʻa, ka moʻomeheu, a me ka mākaʻikaʻi huakaʻi, ʻoiai he ʻehā mau panalāʻau nui a me ʻehiku mau wahi - ʻo Gilgit-Blatistan, NWFP, Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan, Azad, a me Kashmir a me Islamabad - loaʻa i kēlā me kēia me kāna mau hiʻohiʻona a me nā moʻomeheu like ʻole. Ke kipa ʻoe i kēia mau ʻāina, manaʻo ʻoe aia ʻoe i kahi ʻāina ʻē. Loaʻa iā mākou, i ka manawa like, ʻokoʻa ka wā, a hiki iā ʻoe ke hauʻoli i nā kau ʻehā i ka huakaʻi hoʻokahi. No ka laʻana, hiki iā ʻoe ke hele [mai] ke anu loa [a i ka] wela loa - he kauwela ko mākou ma ka ʻākau, a ʻo ka hoʻoilo ma ka hema.

ʻO Pakistan kahi huakaʻi kūʻokoʻa [a] hāʻawi i nā huahana kūʻokoʻa no ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi. Ua hauʻoli ka poʻe e kipa mai ana iā mākou i ko lākou noho ʻana [no] ko mākou hoʻokipa a me nā mea a mākou e hāʻawi aku ai iā lākou, a hilinaʻi iaʻu, ʻaʻohe wahi ʻē aʻe o ka ʻāina i loaʻa ka ʻokoʻa i loaʻa ma Pakistan. ʻOkoʻa nā hiʻohiʻona mai kēlā ʻāina a i kēia ʻāina; ʻokoʻa ka ʻōlelo, ka moʻomeheu; okoa ka helehelena o na kanaka; no laila hiki iā ʻoe ke hauʻoli a hoʻi i ka home me nā ʻike ikaika a me [kahi] huakaʻi poina ʻole.

eTN: Ke alo nei ʻo Pakistan i ka ʻilikai ma kekahi ʻaoʻao a me nā mauna ma kekahi ʻaoʻao; He aha ka mea e ʻike ai ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi ma nā ʻāina ʻelua?

Maulana Atta ur-Rehman: ʻAe, ua ʻike ʻoe aia iā mākou ka K2, ʻo ia ka lua o ka mauna kiʻekiʻe loa ma ka honua. 'O ka mea 'oko'a, 'o ia ke ka'a 'ana ma ke ka'a, 'ike 'oe mai kou pukaaniani i ka K2, 'oi aku ma mua o 8,000 mika ke ki'eki'e. ʻAʻole loaʻa kēia ʻike ma kahi ʻē aʻe. Eia kekahi, he nani loa na awawa, na muliwai, a me na kauhale liilii; ʻo nā wao nahele, nā pāpū, a me nā kūlanakauhale pahū. Ma kaʻaoʻao kai, hāʻawi nā hōkele a me nā hōkele i kahi noho nani a me nā hiʻohiʻona kai me nā mea haʻuki kai. Eia naʻe, ʻo kā mākou mea hoihoi nui ʻo ia ka huakaʻi huakaʻi ma ka K2.

eTN: Pehea kou manaʻo i ke kūlana palekana no ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi? Pono e hoʻomaha ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi e hele mai i Pakistan? Pehea e pili ana i ka palekana, a ma hea ʻoe e ʻōlelo ai i ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi e hele? Inā he kanaka mākaʻikaʻi au a makemake wau e kono i kaʻu mau mea kūʻai aku e kipa aku iā Pakistan, ma hea wau e ʻōlelo aku ai iā lākou e hele a ma kahi e hele ʻole ai, no laila he ʻike maikaʻi ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi e hoʻi i ka home?

Maulana Atta ur-Rehman: Hiki iaʻu ke helu ma koʻu mau manamana lima, nā wahi aʻu i ʻōlelo ʻole ai, akā ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke helu i nā wahi palekana a kupanaha. Ke kū'ē nei ka poʻe media haole iā Pakistan; hoʻolaha lākou i nā nūhou maikaʻi ʻole a hoʻopunipuni a hoʻonui e pili ana iā Pakistan, ʻaʻole ia he ʻoiaʻiʻo, a pili lākou i kā mākou ʻoihana mākaʻikaʻi, no laila ʻo ka media e hōʻike nei i nā kiʻi hewa o Pakistan. Ma mua o kēia hoʻolaha ʻana ma ka pāpaho haole, hele nui mai ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi, ʻAe, loaʻa iā mākou nā wahi e kū nei kekahi mau pilikia a me kekahi mau pilikia ma nā wahi liʻiliʻi loa o ka ʻāina kahi e hele ʻole ai ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi; ʻAe, loaʻa iā mākou nā pilikia ma ia mau wahi e like me [ka] Suat Area, akā ʻaʻole ʻōlelo kikoʻī [ka] media i nā wahi i palekana ʻole - ʻōlelo lākou ʻo Pakistan ma ka laulā, ʻaʻole ʻoiaʻiʻo. Paʻa loa nā ʻaoʻao hema, paʻa ʻo Penjab a me ka wahi K2, ʻaʻohe hōʻike ma ka mōʻaukala e pili ana i nā mea i mālama ʻole ʻia. He nani loa ka wahi mauna, he maemae loa. Ua palekana ka hapa nui o ko mākou ʻāina, a hiki iā ʻoe ke nīnau i ka poʻe i hele mai i ʻaneʻi a kipa mai iā mākou - e hōʻike lākou iā ʻoe i ka nui o ko lākou hauʻoli [ia], a hiki iā lākou ke hāʻawi i kā lākou mau ʻōlelo a me nā manaʻo. No ka mea, ʻo wau ke Kuhina Kaʻikaʻi, manaʻo paha ka poʻe heluhelu ke hoʻolaha nei au i koʻu ʻāina, akā inā e nīnau ʻoe i ka poʻe i hele mai i ʻaneʻi, e hāʻawi lākou iā ʻoe i ka moʻolelo pololei ʻaʻole mai ka media. Hiki iaʻu ke hōʻoia iā ʻoe he ʻāina palekana ʻo Pakistan.

Aia mākou ma ITB Berlin, ka hōʻike huakaʻi nui loa, e hōʻike ana i ko mākou ʻāina a ke kono nei i nā mākaʻikaʻi e hele mai. Inā manaʻo mākou he pōʻino no lākou, ʻaʻole mākou e hele mai a kū i kā mākou kū. Hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike i nā mea hoʻokele huakaʻi nui e hele mai ana, a hoʻolilo lākou i ke kālā e hele mai, akā no ka mea ua hilinaʻi lākou ua palekana ʻo Pakistan. ʻO ia ke kumu o lākou ma ʻaneʻi; ʻAʻole hiki iā mākou ke hoʻopunipuni i nā mākaʻikaʻi.

eTN: ʻAe, maopopo iaʻu ke kūlana āu e kū nei i kēia mau lā ma Pakistan, hoʻomanaʻo wau i ka wā i hoʻomaka ai mākou eTurboNews ma Indonesia 10 makahiki aku nei; he pilikia ma kekahi wahi, akā, ʻaʻole ia he manaʻo ʻaʻole palekana nā wahi ʻē aʻe. I kēia manawa, mai hea ʻoe e loaʻa ai nā mākaʻikaʻi?

Maulana Atta ur-Rehman: Ua ʻike ʻoe, ke loaʻa nei iā mākou he mau kaukani mākaʻikaʻi mai Kina a me India e hele mai nei i Pakistan, no ka mea ʻaʻole lākou hilinaʻi a hoʻolohe ʻole i ka pāpā e hōʻike ana iā Pakistan he ʻāina wela a weliweli paha. Hele mai lākou a hauʻoli i ko lākou noho ʻana a hoʻi mai me [kahi] ʻike maikaʻi loa. Eia kekahi, ke hele mai nei nā mākaʻikaʻi huakaʻi no ka mea ua ʻike lākou he wahi palekana ʻo Pakistan, a no ka hilinaʻi ʻana iā mākou i ka wā i haʻi aku ai mākou iā lākou, ua hele mai lākou mai nā wahi a pau o ka honua.

eTN: Pehea e pili ana i ka huakaʻi huakaʻi?

Maulana Atta ur-Rehman: Ke manaʻoʻiʻo nei au ua like ka mākaʻikaʻi huakaʻi ma Pakistan me Makah no ka huakaʻi hoʻomana. ʻOiai ma ka ʻāina he Nepal a me nā ʻāpana ʻē aʻe, akā eia mākou he mau mauna nui e like me ka Hikina Himalaya a me nā mea ʻē aʻe. Ma luna o 8,000 mika [i] kiʻekiʻe, [ke] kaulahao loa o nā mauna, ua hana mākou i nā mea hoʻoikaika; Ua lawe lākou i nā hoʻopiʻi a hōʻemi i nā uku no ke kipa ʻana i nā mauna - 50 pakeneka, hoʻokahi mea hoʻoikaika kēia - ʻaʻohe hanana ʻino i hana ʻia. Ma ʻaneʻi hiki iā ʻoe ke hana i ka hoʻopaʻa ʻana, ka ʻimi ʻana, ka rafting, nā mea a pau, hiking. ʻO ʻoe wale nō ma ʻaneʻi i ka ʻāina maikaʻi loa, a ua noa ʻoe e leʻaleʻa iā ia i kāu nui loa.

eTN: Mahalo iā ʻoe; makemake ʻoe i ka pōmaikaʻi ma kēia hōʻike.