ʻO ka hālāwai kūkā nui ʻo ʻApelika ma Wakinekona, DC

Inā makemake ʻoe e hana ʻoihana ma ʻApelika, mai hele i laila! Ma ka liʻiliʻi loa a hiki i kou hele ʻana i ka 2009 US-Africa Business Summit ma Wakinekona, DC i ka hopena o Kepakemapa. Ma kēlā hanana e hui ai ʻoe ma luna o 2,000 poʻe me nā alakaʻi ʻoihana, nā kuhina, nā lālā kuhina, a me ka Pelekikena paha o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa. A laila pono ʻoe e hui pū me ka hui i kuleana no ka piko: The Corporate Council on Africa. I kēia manawa ua mākaukau ʻoe e hele e hana i ka ʻoihana ma ʻApelika!

I kēia lā, loaʻa iā mākou ʻo Sandy Dhuyvetter o Travel Talk Radio e alakaʻi ana i kahi hālāwai ninaninau me Stephen Hayes, pelekikena a Luna Nui o The Corporate Council on Africa.

Sandy Dhuyvetter: Loaʻa iā mākou kekahi mea i hele pinepine ma ka hōʻike, a ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke haʻi iā ʻoe i ka nui o nā kaʻa āna e lawe mai nei i ka pūnaewele. Ua hoihoi loa oukou a pau i Aferika, a ua hoihoi loa oukou a pau i ka The Corporate Council on Africa, a ua hauoli loa makou a pau i ka hoi hou ana mai me makou i ka Peresidena a me Luna Nui, o Stephen Hayes. Aia ʻo ia ma Wakinekona, DC i hoʻi mai nei mai Kenya a me ʻAitiopa a, ma ke ala, ua lohe au ua pāʻina ʻo ia me Hillary Clinton, no laila e nīnau mākou iā ia ma ia mea. Mahalo iā ʻoe, e Stephen, no kou hui hou ʻana mai iā mākou.

ʻO Stephen Hayes: Hauʻoli mau iā Sandy; he mea lealea.

Sandy: He mea maikaʻi ke loaʻa iā ʻoe ma ka papahana. Ua hana nui ʻoe i ka hoʻonaʻauao ʻana iā mākou a me ka hoʻokipa ʻana iā mākou ma ʻApelika. Nui nā mea e kamaʻilio ai. Nui kēia ʻāina, a ke nānā wale nei au i ko mākou ʻaoʻao home ma TravelTalkRADIO.com. Ua pāʻani mākou i kahi hōʻike "Best of" ʻaʻole i lōʻihi loa ma mua a, ʻoiaʻiʻo, aia ʻoe ma laila ma luna o ka pakuhi. No laila ua ʻōlelo ʻia ʻoe, manaʻo wau ua loaʻa iā ʻoe he 3 mau ʻāpana like ʻole ma ka homepage, no laila, mahalo!

Hayes: ʻAe, maikaʻi kēlā!

Sandy: ʻAe, a makemake nō hoʻi au e ʻōlelo aku e loaʻa iā mākou kahi kope o kēia no laila inā makemake ʻoe i ka heluhelu ʻana, e loaʻa iā mākou kēlā. Ma ke ala, hoʻi mai i ka home. Aia ʻoe ma Kenya ma ʻAitiopa?

Hayes: ʻOiaʻiʻo, ua pau wau i ka hui AGOA makahiki, ʻo ia ka Africa Growth and Opportunity Act. Ua lilo mākou i mea nui o ia mea; Ua alakaʻi mākou i ka hui pilikino no kēlā. ʻO ka ʻaha AGOA he hālāwai maoli nō ia o nā kuhina, nā kuhina kālepa a pau mai ʻApelika, a me kahi ʻelele kiʻekiʻe o US. I kēia hihia, ua alakaʻi ʻia ka ʻelele US e Hillary Clinton.

Sandy: A no laila, aia ʻoe ma laila, a lohe au ua pāʻina ʻoe me ia?

Hayes: ʻAe, ua pāʻina mākou me ia ma mua o kona haʻalele ʻana. Ua kāhea aku ʻo ia he ʻumi, manaʻo wau, he mau kākāʻōlelo a i ʻole nā ​​mea āu e makemake ai e kapa aku iā ia, e ʻai pū me ia ma mua o kona haʻalele ʻana i Wakinekona ma ke Keʻena Mokuʻāina. No laila, he ʻaina ahiahi ʻelua hola mākou e kūkākūkā ai i kāna huakaʻi i ʻApelika a me nā pilikia i manaʻo ʻia e kēlā me kēia o mākou e puka mai i mua i kona wā e noho ai a pono ʻo ia e hoʻoponopono. No laila, he ʻaina ahiahi maikaʻi loa ia, a ua laki nō hoʻi au i ka noho ʻana ma hope ona. No laila, he ʻaina ahiahi maikaʻi loa.

Sandy: Maikaʻi, a ʻike ʻoe iā ia he nani?

Hayes: ʻAe, ua hana wau. Ua loaʻa iaʻu he kanaka maikaʻi loa. Ua maopopo iaʻu ke kūlana o ke kākoʻo i loaʻa iā ia, a ke manaʻo nei au e lilo ana ʻo ia i Kakauolelo Aupuni nui.

Sandy: Me he mea lā. ʻIke ʻoe, ʻo kaʻu mea hoihoi loa [ʻo ia] ua loaʻa iā mākou ʻo Pelekikena Obama i kēia mau lā ma Ghana. Loaʻa iā mākou, ʻoiaʻiʻo, kā mākou Kākau'ōlelo ʻo Clinton ma Kenya. Me he mea lā he nui ka nānā ʻana iā ʻApelika i kēia manawa.

Hayes: ʻAe, manaʻo wau he pono no nā kumu like ʻole. Ua hele aku ke Kakauolelo o ka Mokuaina i ehiku aina, a ua ike au ua olelo mai oia ua oi loa aku kona manao no Aferika mamua o kona hoomaka ana i ka huakai, mahope iho o kona hoi ana mai. Aia nō ka pono o ka ikehu. Ua ʻike nā kānaka a pau, ʻoiai, ʻike ka hapa nui o ka poʻe, e hāʻawi ana ʻo ʻApelika i kahi 25 pakeneka o kā mākou pono ikehu. No laila, he mea nui ʻo ʻApelika iā mākou i ka ʻoihana. Akā, manaʻo wau i hāʻawi ʻia i ka hoʻokele waiwai a me nā pilikia i loaʻa iā mākou i kā mākou ʻoihana ponoʻī i kēia manawa, manaʻo wau ua hāʻawi ʻo ʻApelika i kekahi o nā mākeke hou maikaʻi loa ma nā wahi āpau o ka honua, a ke manaʻo nei au e kōkua ka pilina ʻoihana ʻoi aku ʻo US-Africa i ka ʻāina ʻelua. ʻApelika a me nā ʻāina he 53 ma luna ona, a me ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa.

Sandy: Ua ʻike ʻoe ua ʻōlelo ʻoe he 25 pakeneka o ka ikehu e hele mai ana mai ʻApelika. Aia kēlā i ka US?

Stephen Hayes: I ka US. Pololei kēnā.

Sandy: Hoihoi loa. Pehea ia? Ma ka lā a i ʻole…?

Hayes: ʻAʻole, ʻōlelo wau ma ke ʻano o ka ʻaila. ʻO kā mākou pono aila… 25 pakeneka e hele mai ana mai ʻApelika. A no laila, he mea nui ia lako. Hiki nō ke ulu aʻe i ka manawa. ʻOi aku, inā mākou e hele i ke kinoea maoli. He nui nā kumuwaiwai o ʻApelika i loko o ke kinoea maoli. No laila, e hilinaʻi ana mākou iā ʻApelika no kā mākou pono ikehu no kekahi mau makahiki.

Sandy: Ua ʻike ʻoe, ua ʻike wau i kaʻu ʻōlelo ʻana i ka "solar," ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu pehea e hiki ai ke hoʻololi i ka lā, akā ʻoiaʻiʻo, nui ka ikehu o ka lā ma laila, me he mea lā.

Hayes: Ma ke ʻano o ka pono o ka ikehu ponoʻī o ʻApelika, aia nō ka nui o ka hoʻokolohua ikehu lā. He mea paʻakikī ke hoʻohaʻahaʻa i ke kumukūʻai no ka ikehu lā e like me nā ʻano kuʻuna ʻē aʻe, akā manaʻo wau e lilo ia i ʻāpana o ka wā e hiki mai ana, ʻoi aku ma Africa. No laila ʻae, aia kahi manawa kūpono no kēlā poʻe e hoʻopukapuka nei i ka ikehu lā, ʻoiai e pili ana iā ʻApelika. Akā, e nui ana ka pono o ka ikehu o ʻApelika, no laila e hiki ai ke kūʻai aku i ka ikehu, pono lākou e kūʻai aku i ka ikehu ma ke ʻano o [kahi] lako aila maʻamau, a laila e hoʻokomo i nā ʻano ikehu ʻē aʻe no lākou iho. ʻai.

Sandy: Ke noʻonoʻo ʻoe i kēlā mau ʻōlelo, i loko o ʻumi makahiki, hiki ke ikaika loa ka ʻāina, ʻaʻole anei?

Hayes: ʻAe, manaʻo wau he ʻāina ʻāina i loaʻa ka mana nui, e pili ana i nā mea āpau. Ma ke ʻano o kāu poʻe hoʻolohe kuʻuna o ka ʻoihana huakaʻi, ʻoi aku ka nui o nā manawa kūpono [e loaʻa] ma laila ma kekahi ʻāina. Loaʻa iā ʻAitiopia nā mākau mākaʻikaʻi nui ʻole a pēlā aku. He nui ka mana hoʻokele waiwai o ʻApelika, akā pono lākou e lanakila i kekahi mau pilikia e hoʻokō i kēlā hiki.

Sandy: ʻOiaʻiʻo. Hana nui mākou me ʻAitiopa Airlines, a ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu inā ua loaʻa iā ʻoe ka manawa e lele ai iā lākou, akā hele koʻu pāpale iā lākou Ua mālama maoli lākou i kēlā ʻāina, e hana a mālama i nā ala me ka ʻole o ka nui. o ka poʻe kaʻahele, i ka hoʻomaopopo ʻana i ka lani ākea ma ka liʻiliʻi loa i ko lākou honua, e noho hāmama. Loaʻa iā ʻoe ka pilikia ke hele ʻoe i ʻApelika e komo i waho a i waho?

Hayes: ʻAe, ʻaʻole maoli, ʻoiai ua hele au i nā awa nui, akā inā e hoʻāʻo ʻoe e hele [mai kekahi ʻāina a i kekahi ʻāina, ʻoi aku ka paʻakikī. Hauʻoli wau i kāu ʻōlelo ʻana i kāu mea i hana ai e pili ana i ka ʻAitiopa Airlines; Manaʻo wau ʻo lākou kekahi o nā mea maikaʻi loa ma Africa. ʻO Ethiopian Airlines, Kenya Airlines, a me South African Airways nā lālā a pau o The Corporate Council, a ke manaʻo nei au ua holo maikaʻi lākou a pau, akā ke manaʻo nei au, i kēia mau lā, ʻo Ethiopian Airlines he mau mokulele mālama maikaʻi loa. Manaʻo wau ua lanakila lākou i kahi makana nui ma Lākana…

Sandy: ʻAe maikaʻi! Inā ua hele ʻoe i ʻApelika, ʻike pono ʻoe i kaʻu ʻōlelo. Haehae i ke kaula o kou puʻuwai. He mea ia e pili ana iā ʻoe. Ke ulu nei ma luna ou. Hoʻomaka ʻoe i ke aloha iā ia, ʻaʻohe mea e huli i hope. Ua loaʻa iaʻu kaʻu huakaʻi ʻewalu i ʻApelika. A ke kamaʻilio nei mākou me Stephen Hayes. E Stephen, he aha kāu, 50, 100 mau huakaʻi i ʻApelika i kēia manawa?

Hayes: Ma kahi kokoke i 50, pololei kēlā, ʻoiaʻiʻo i kēia ʻumi makahiki.

Sandy: He mea kupanaha. ʻO Stephen Hayes ka pelekikena a me ka Luna Nui o [The] Corporate Council on Africa. Aia ʻo ia ma Wakinekona DC. Ua hoʻi mai ʻo ia mai Kenya a me ʻAitiopa. Ua kamaʻilio liʻiliʻi mākou e pili ana, ʻaʻole wale kāna huakaʻi i laila, akā kekahi o nā mea e hana nei ma ʻApelika, ʻaʻole wale i ka huakaʻi a me ka huakaʻi, akā i nā ʻoihana a me nā manawa kūpono [e] kupaianaha. I kēia manawa, ke hoʻomākaukau nei ʻoe no ka piko nui a hiki i kēlā me kēia ʻelua makahiki wale nō, no laila e hauʻoli nui ʻoe.

Hayes: ʻAe, ʻo ka hauʻoli kekahi ala e kau ai. Makaʻu, hopohopo, ʻae. ʻO ia ka hui ʻoihana nui o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa o kēlā me kēia ʻano a ke manaʻo nei mākou, no ka mea, aia ma Wakinekona DC i kēia manawa, manaʻo mākou ma kahi o 2,000 mau mea komo - nā poʻe ʻoihana mai ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa a me ʻApelika. Ua loaʻa iā mākou ʻelua mau Kuhina Kuhina i hoʻopaʻa ʻia no kēia: ʻo ke Kakauolelo Kālepa, ʻo ka US trade rep. Manaʻo nui wau e loaʻa iā mākou ke Kakauolelo o ka Moku'āina, a me ka manaʻolana, e loaʻa iā mākou ka Pelekikena o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa ma ʻaneʻi. Loaʻa iā mākou ma kahi o ʻumi mau pelekikena ʻApelika i hōʻoia ʻia no kēia, pū kekahi. No laila, he papahana koʻikoʻi ia ma ka ʻoihana, ka politika, a me ka pilikanaka. ʻO ia ka hanana ʻoihana koʻikoʻi e pili ana i ka pilina pili waiwai o US-Africa. Inā makemake kekahi e hoʻokomo i loko o ʻApelika ma nā wahi like ʻole, ʻo ia ka mākaʻikaʻi, ka ikehu, ka ʻenehana, ke olakino, nā ʻāpana like ʻole, a laila pono lākou e hele i kēia piko.

Sandy: ʻĀnō, aia kēia ma ka hopena o Kepakemapa, pololei?

Hayes: Pololei. Sepatemaba 29-ʻOkakopa 1. Akā, e lilo ana kēia i pule kiʻekiʻe ma nā ʻano he nui. Ma mua o ka piko ma ka 28th a me 29th, ke hana nei mākou i ka hoʻokaʻawale ʻana i nā mea a mākou i kapa ai i nā papa hana "no-compete": Hana ʻoihana ma ʻAitiopa, Hana ʻoihana ma Nigeria, a hana ʻoihana ma Angola. Nā papa hana hapalua lā. E noa lākou i ka poʻe i uku ʻia e hele i ka piko. No laila, he mea koʻikoʻi kēlā, a ma hope iho, ke loaʻa nei mākou ma ke kono-wale nō nā kūkākūkā bilateral me South Africa a me Nigeria. I loko o ka piko pono'ī, e loaʻa iā mākou he 64 mau papa hana, he mau plenaries a, ʻoiaʻiʻo, he mau haʻiʻōlelo koʻikoʻi mai ka mea a mākou e manaʻo ai ʻo ia ka Pelekikena o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, akā ʻoiaʻiʻo mai kona kūlana kiʻekiʻe, a me nā poʻo aupuni ʻē aʻe o ʻApelika.

Sandy: Inā he hui ʻoe ma waho o The Corporate Council ma ʻApelika, a hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻike he nui loa ka manawa kūpono ma ʻApelika, he aha kāu e kau ai i kou manamana lima?

Hayes: Manaʻo wau ʻo ka ʻoihana agro-ʻoihana a me ka ʻoihana mākaʻikaʻi he ʻelua mau wahi e hiki ai i nā hui ʻAmelika ke pōmaikaʻi maoli [a] kahi e loaʻa ai iā lākou ka pōmaikaʻi hoʻohālikelike. Pono nā ʻāina āpau ma ʻApelika i nā ʻoihana agro-ʻoihana ikaika. Hiki i kēlā me kēia ʻāina ma ʻApelika ke hoʻohua i ka mahiʻai, a pono mākou e hoʻoikaika i kēlā pilina kalepa, a ke manaʻo nei au he kuleana maoli a pono no ka ʻoihana agro-ʻAmelika. Manaʻo wau he wahi ʻē aʻe ka mākaʻikaʻi kahi hiki ʻole ke palena ʻole, kēlā me kēia ʻāina. ʻO ka mea e pono ai, ʻo ia ka mea e pono ai ke kūkulu ʻia i mea e hana ai i ka hana mākaʻikaʻi a hiki ke loaʻa i nā mea kanu i ka mākeke a ʻo ia kekahi o nā pilikia nui o ʻApelika, ʻo ia ka ʻōnaehana a me ka nele o ia mea, a he nui e kau ana kā mākou hui i ka hoʻomohala ʻana i kēlā ʻoihana.

Sandy: Ua ʻike ʻoe, he mea hoihoi loa ia i kou ʻōlelo ʻana iā Angola, no ka mea, aia wau ma Angola a, ʻoiaʻiʻo, aia lākou i waho o kahi kaua 30 makahiki paha ʻehā a ʻelima paha makahiki i hala. No laila, ʻano hou lākou, akā i koʻu noho ʻana ma laila, ua loaʻa iā mākou nā polopeka mai Hawaiʻi mai e kamaʻilio ana a e hoʻomaʻamaʻa ana i kekahi o nā mahiʻai i ka ulu ʻana i ka paina, a he mea hoihoi loa ka ʻike ʻana. A laila, loaʻa iā lākou kahi hui ʻē aʻe ma laila e hoʻohuli ana i nā maina ʻāina i kumu waina waina a kapa ʻia lākou he "mines to vines." Nui nā mea e like me ia, huh?

Hayes: ʻAe, ʻo Angola kekahi o nā ʻāina e ulu nui nei, a ʻaʻohe mea pōʻino i loaʻa i ke Kakauolelo o ka Mokuʻāina kēlā ma kāna huakaʻi. He ʻāina nui ia me 13 miliona mau kānaka, no laila ʻaneʻane ka ʻāina palena ʻole e hiki ke hoʻohana, ʻo ia hoʻi, i ka mahiʻai. Eia kekahi, e lilo ana ʻo Angola i kā mākou mea hana aila nui loa ma ʻApelika, ma mua o Nigeria. He mea koʻikoʻi loa ia no ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa a he ʻāina wale nō me ka mana nui e hoʻomaka ana, e hoʻomaka wale ana, e hana i nā mea ma ke ala kūpono.

Sandy: Auwe, hoihoi loa. ʻIke ʻoe, ua lilo mākou i lālā [o The Corporate Council on Africa] ʻaʻole i lōʻihi loa i hala, a ua hauʻoli wau i kaʻu mea e loaʻa ai i ka ʻike i kēlā me kēia lā, Stephen he limahana maikaʻi kāu.

Hayes: Makemake wau. Haʻaheo loa au i kēia limahana. Makemake au e haʻi aku i ka poʻe ma Wakinekona [e] hoʻokau wau i kēia koʻokoʻo e kūʻē i kekahi. He limahana hoʻolaʻa loa ia. He ʻōpio ʻo ia me [nā kānaka] akamai loa a kūpaʻa maoli i ka pilina US-Africa. Manaʻo wau ua laki loa wau. Loaʻa iaʻu ʻelua Rhodes Scholars ma nā limahana, a no laila he limahana akamai.

Sandy: ʻOiaʻiʻo nō. A i kēia manawa hoʻi ʻoe e hoʻopuka, a no nā lālā kēia, a e kamaʻilio mākou e pili ana i ka lālā, akā makemake wau e ʻano hoʻohenehene me ka ʻōlelo ʻana i kēlā me kēia lā e loaʻa iā mākou ka The Corporate Council on Africa i kēlā me kēia lā nūhou, a ua hoʻolaha ʻia ma waena o ka ʻāina holoʻokoʻa. A i kēlā me kēia lā, piha i ka nūhou. He hana nui ʻoe ma ia mea.

Hayes: Mahalo iā ʻoe. ʻAe, ʻo ka Daily Clips wale nō ka nānā ʻana i ka ʻoihana a e like me kou ʻike, e Sandy, ʻaʻole ʻoe e ʻike i kekahi o ia mea ma nā nūpepa. Nui nā ʻoihana ʻoihana i hana ʻia ma ʻApelika i ʻike ʻole ʻia e kēia ʻāina. A, manaʻo wau ua lilo kā mākou Daily Clips i kumu maikaʻi loa ma ka ʻike ʻoihana ma ʻApelika ma kēia ʻāina.

Sandy: ʻO ia ka maikaʻi. Makemake au e kamaʻilio pū kekahi, [e pili ana i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo] ke hana nei ʻoe i ka hālāwai wikiō. ʻO ka lā ʻapōpō e loaʻa iā mākou ka hālāwai kūkā wikiō no ka ʻelele no Ghana?

Hayes: ʻO ka lā 28 kēia, i ka Pōʻalima aʻe, manaʻo wau ʻo ia. Akā ʻae, i kēlā me kēia mahina e hana mākou i kahi kūkā wikiō ola no kā mākou mau lālā me kahi ʻelele US i koho ʻia ma ʻApelika. He kūkākūkā paʻa ʻole ia e pili ana i nā pilikia i loaʻa i ko mākou mau lālā a me nā mea e hana nei ma kēlā ʻāina, a kōkua ia i kā mākou mau lālā e hoʻoholo i nā hoʻoholo hoʻopukapuka maikaʻi aʻe.

Sandy: ʻOiaʻiʻo. E kamaʻilio liʻiliʻi e pili ana i nā lālā a ʻo wai ka mea hiki ke lilo i lālā, a pono ʻoe e lilo i lālā e hiki ai i ka piko a mākou e kamaʻilio nei [ʻo ia] ma ka hopena o Kepakemapa?

Hayes: E hoʻomaka kākou ma hope. ʻAʻole, ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e lilo i lālā. Pono wale ʻoe e uku. Loaʻa nā lālā i nā kumukūʻai haʻahaʻa ma ia mau hanana, akā ua wehe ʻia ka piko i nā poʻe a pau i makemake maoli i ʻApelika a makemake maoli i nā manawa hoʻolimalima. Inā koʻikoʻi ʻoe e pili ana iā ʻApelika, hiki iā ʻoe ke mālama i kahi kālā nui ma ka hele ʻana i ka piko. A, ke ʻōlelo nei au, no ka mea, no ka liʻiliʻi o kahi tikiki mokulele i ʻApelika, hiki iā ʻoe ke hālāwai me kekahi helu o nā alakaʻi ʻApelika, nā Kuhina ʻApelika, nā mea hoʻoholo, nā poʻe ʻoihana, [a] nā hoa pili mai ʻAmelika. . Akā naʻe, inā koʻikoʻi ʻoe, a laila inā ʻoe, manaʻo wau ʻo ia ka hoʻoholo maikaʻi loa āu e hana ai.

Sandy: ʻIke ʻoe, ke kamaʻilio nei ʻoe e pili ana i ka hele ʻana mai o nā kuhina, ʻo kaʻu manaʻo, he poʻe keʻena kuhina kēia poʻe ma laila, a manaʻo wau hiki iā ʻoe ke launa pū me lākou.

Hayes: ʻAe, ʻae ʻoe. Hiki i kekahi kanaka ʻoihana maʻamau ke noho ma laila [a] kamaʻilio me kekahi o nā kuhina aupuni. ʻAe, he kuhina lākou. ʻO ia ka wehewehe ʻana o ke kuhina aupuni o ʻApelika he lālā o ka ʻaha kuhina. A, e loaʻa iā mākou he 100 mau kuhina mai nā wahi like ʻole a me nā ʻāina a me nā ʻāpana. Malaila no na Kuhina Kalepa, na Kuhina Ola, na Kuhina Kaikaikai, a pela aku.

Sandy: Kupaianaha. E kamaʻilio liʻiliʻi kāu e pili ana i ka lilo ʻana i lālā.

Hayes: ʻAe, inā he ʻoihana ʻoe a he keʻena kāu ma ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, kahi noho kino. I nā huaʻōlelo ʻē aʻe, ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e lilo i hui US, no kēlā me kēia, akā inā loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi noho kino ma United States. No ka laʻana, ʻo Standard Bank of Africa he lālā o CCA. ʻO ia ka panakō nui loa ma ʻApelika, ma ʻApelika Hema, akā aia nā keʻena ma ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, no laila hiki iā ia ke hui pū me CCA, a loaʻa iā ia. No laila, no nā ʻoihana ka lālā. Manaʻo wau hiki i ke kanaka ke haʻi iā ia iho he ʻoihana, akā pono ʻo ia e uku i ka helu lālā like me nā ʻoihana ʻē aʻe.

Sandy: Ma waho aʻe o ka loaʻa ʻana o nā kiʻi, nā kiʻi CCA i kēlā me kēia lā, a me ka hālāwai wikiō, aia kekahi mea ʻē aʻe āu e hoʻohui ai i ka lālā?

Hayes: Hana mākou ma mua o 100 mau hanana i ka makahiki. Loaʻa iā mākou kahi hui hana palekana. ʻAʻole pono ʻoe e hele ma Wakinekona e hele i kēlā. Hiki iā ʻoe ke hana pēlā ma ke kelepona ʻana a i ʻole ke kelepona ʻana a ma laila. Akā, loaʻa iā mākou kahi pūʻulu hana palekana, loaʻa iā mākou kahi pūʻulu hana ma nā ʻōnaehana e hui ana i kēlā me kēia mahina, loaʻa iā mākou kahi hālāwai ʻoihana olakino i kēlā me kēia mahina, [a] pela aku, [a me] nā hālāwai kūkā. Loaʻa iā mākou nā lawelawe noiʻi. Inā makemake kekahi lālā i ka noiʻi ma kekahi wahi mākeke, a laila loaʻa iā mākou nā limahana e kākau i kēlā pepa, [a] e hana iā lākou a aʻo iā lākou. ʻOiai no nā ʻoihana nui loa, paʻakikī pinepine lākou i ka hālāwai me nā poʻe. E hoʻonohonoho mākou [no ka laʻana], inā makemake ʻoe i kahi hālāwai me ka ʻAmelika ʻAmelika, a loaʻa iā ʻoe kahi hihia maikaʻi no ia, a laila e hoʻonohonoho mākou i kēlā hālāwai. Hoʻohanohano nā ʻelele iā mākou a hoʻolohe mai iā mākou, a hiki iā mākou ke maʻalahi ma mua o ka hapa nui o nā hui no ia mau hālāwai. Inā makemake ʻoe i ka ʻōlelo aʻoaʻo no ka hele ʻana i ka ʻāina, pono ʻoe i ka ʻōlelo aʻoaʻo e pili ana i ka mea e hālāwai ai, e loaʻa iā mākou kēlā no ʻoe. A i ʻole, ma ka hui ʻole ʻana i ka CCA, a me ka hoʻāʻo ʻana e hana iā ʻoe iho, hiki iā ʻoe ke hele, e ʻōlelo, i kekahi ʻāina a ʻaʻohe manaʻo iki o ke ʻano o ka hana, ʻo wai e ʻike, [a] kahi e hele ai. Hoʻopau ʻoe i ka manawa nui a me ka nui o ke kālā. Ke'ōlelo nei au inā makemakeʻoe i'Afelika, hoʻokomo kālā ma'Afelika,ʻo ka lālā ma CCA kekahi o nā kūʻai maikaʻi loa hiki iāʻoe ke loaʻa. Akā inā ʻaʻole ʻoe e lilo iā mākou, eia naʻe, ke hoʻopau wale nei ʻoe i kāu kālā. No laila, inā e hui pū kekahi iā mākou, pono lākou e kūpaʻa e hoʻohana iā mākou.

Sandy: ʻO kaʻu mea makemake e pili ana iā ia [ʻo ia] e like me ka loaʻa ʻana o kahi hoa me ka ʻole e kaʻana like i ke kaulike.

Hayes: ʻAe, manaʻo wau ʻo ia. He limahana lōʻihi. He ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi ma mua o ka hiki iā ʻoe ke uku i kahi limahana hoʻokahi e hana i nā mea a 30 o kā mākou limahana e hana ai no ʻoe.

Sandy: ʻOiaʻiʻo. Ua pololei loa ʻoe. E hele hou ana ʻoe i ʻApelika ma mua o ka piko i ka hopena o Kepakemapa?

Hayes: ʻAʻole. ʻAʻole au e hele ana i kahi i kēia manawa. ʻAʻole au e hoʻomaha hoʻomaha a pau ka piko.

Sandy: ʻAe, e nīnau wau iā ʻoe, i kēlā me kēia manawa aʻu e kamaʻilio ai me ʻoe, ua hele ʻoe i ʻApelika a ʻaʻole kēia mau huakaʻi pōkole. ʻO kaʻu manaʻo, ʻoi aku ka nui ma mua o ka hele ʻana i Lākana a i Paris paha. Nui kēia. Ma ke ʻano he huakaʻi, a makemake wale wau e komo i loko o kou poʻo ma kēlā ʻāpana, kekahi ʻano ʻōlelo aʻoaʻo āu e loaʻa ai no nā huakaʻi e hele ana i ʻApelika?

Hayes: ʻAe, ʻike ʻoe, e hoʻomanawanui. ʻO ia ka ʻōlelo aʻo helu ʻekahi. ʻAʻole like ka maikaʻi o nā mokulele. Ua ʻoi aku ka nui o lākou. Pono ʻoe e hoʻomanawanui, akā, e hoʻomākaukau i mua. E hōʻoia e loaʻa iā ʻoe kekahi e hālāwai me ʻoe ma ke kahua mokulele, ʻaʻole nui no nā kumu palekana, akā no nā kumu maʻalahi a hiki ke neʻe a ʻoi aku ka nui. No laila, pono ʻoe e hoʻomākaukau hou aku. ʻAʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke lele maʻalahi i loko o ke kūlanakauhale ma ʻApelika e like me kou lele ʻana i Ladana a hoʻopaʻa i kou ala a puni. ʻOi aku ka hauʻoli inā hana ʻoe, ʻoiaʻiʻo, akā ʻoi aku paha ka hauʻoli ma mua o kou makemake a pono paha.

Sandy: Pololei, pololei, a inā ʻoe ma laila no ka ʻoihana, makemake ʻoe e hele i ka ʻoihana, no laila ʻo ia kekahi ʻaoʻao o ia mea.

Hayes: Pololei, pololei.

Sandy: ʻAe, e like me nā manawa a pau, ua hauʻoli nui mākou i ko mākou manawa me ʻoe. Hiki iā ʻoe ke manaʻoʻiʻo e holo wikiwiki ana?

Hayes: Loaʻa iaʻu.

Sandy: ʻAe, ua loaʻa iā mākou, a e hoʻopaʻa mākou iā ʻoe i ka mahina aʻe. Ke kakali nei mākou e noho pū me ʻoe ma Wakinekona DC i ka hopena o Kepakemapa ma ka piko. Ke kono nei mākou i nā mea a pau e hoʻolohe ana e nānā, e hele mai i ka pūnaewele, loulou i ka Polokalamu o kēia Hebedoma, e ʻike ʻoe i ke kiʻi o Stephen, kahi loulou i ka CCA, [The] Corporate Council on Africa a, ʻoiaʻiʻo, e loaʻa iā ʻoe ka ʻike hou aʻe e pili ana i kēia piko kupaianaha. A hiki i kēlā me kēia ʻelua makahiki wale nō, no laila, mai hoʻopaneʻe i kēlā. Pono ʻoe e hele pū me mākou. Mahalo iā ʻoe, e Stephen. E kamaʻilio koke mākou iā ʻoe.

Hayes: ʻAe, mahalo iā Sandy.

Sandy: Mahalo nui iā ʻoe.