HONOLULU (eTN) – I kekahi mau mahina i hala aku nei, ua hāʻawi ʻia iaʻu he kope o kahi puke e loiloi i kapa ʻia, "Gay Travels in the Muslim World." ʻO nā pilikia o ka manawa a me nā koi hana ua keʻakeʻa iaʻu mai ka lawe ʻana i ka manawa e heluhelu ai i ka puke, no laila ua hoʻoholo wau e hoʻopili i ka mea kākau o ka puke, ʻo Michael Luongo, no kahi hālāwai ninaninau e kūkākūkā ana i kāna puke. ʻO ke kamaʻilio ma lalo nei ka hopena o kēlā nīnauele.

eTN: He aha kāu puke?
Michael Luongo: ʻAe, ʻo ka puke “Gays Travels of the Muslim World” e pili ana… Ke kākau nei au e pili ana iā Afghanistan; aia he 17 mau mea kākau ʻē aʻe e kākau ana ma nā ʻāina mai Iraq, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Morocco, Marisha, a me Los Angeles, no laila he ʻano wahi like ʻole. Ke nānā nei ka puke i kekahi o nā pilikia i loaʻa iā mākou mai ka 9/11, a ʻo ka pilina ma waena o ke Komohana a me ka Hikina Waena a ʻano hana pū kekahi mai kahi hiʻohiʻona gay.

eTN: Pehea ka pili ʻana i ka huakaʻi a me ka mākaʻikaʻi o kēia lā?
Luongo: ʻAe, manaʻo wau he aha ka mea e pili pono ai, a ʻo ia kahi mea aʻu e hana mau ai i ka heluhelu ʻana a me nā haʻiʻōlelo aʻu e hana nei, ke nānā nei ka puke i ke ʻano o ka huakaʻi maoli i loko o nā ʻāina Muslim Hikina Hikina. Ke hoʻohana nei au i kēia huaʻōlelo ākea, nā ʻāina Muslim, ʻaʻole ia ka Middle East, he mau wahi like ʻole. Nānā pū ka puke i nā makaʻu i loaʻa i nā poʻe he nui ma mua o ko lākou ʻike ʻana i kahi ʻāina Muslim. Ua ʻike mākou he pilikia nui kēlā mai ka 9/11, kahi i hoʻopilikia pololei i ka mākaʻikaʻi i loko o ka hapa nui o kēia mau wahi. ʻO nā ʻike o ka poʻe huakaʻi ma waho aʻe o nā pilikia gay, ʻo ia nā pilikia o ka hoʻokipa maikaʻi ʻia, ka pilikia o ka hoʻokipa ʻana, ka pilikia ʻaʻole kokoke loa i kahi mea ʻino e like me ka manaʻo o ka poʻe media i ka wā e hele ai kekahi ma kēia mau wahi. Ke nānā pono nei ʻo ia i nā pilikia pili kāne kāne, akā ke nānā nei hoʻi i ka pilikia, ʻo ia hoʻi, o kahi huakaʻi Komohana, e hele ana i nā ʻāina e like me Bangladesh, e hele ana i nā ʻāina e like me Afghanistan, aʻu e hana nei, aʻu e manaʻo nei he mea hoʻokipa maikaʻi loa i nā haole ʻoiai ka mea āu i heluhelu ai ma ka nūhou; nā ʻike o ka poʻe e hele ana i ʻAigupita, nā ʻike o ka poʻe e hele ana i Morocco. Hōʻike maopopo loa ka puke ʻaʻohe kumu e makaʻu ai i ka hele ʻana i loko o nā ʻāina Muslim me ka nānā ʻole i kou ʻano moe.

eTN: Ke ʻike nei ʻoe i kahi mākeke niche e lawelawe mau ana i ke kaiāulu gay kikoʻī?
Luongo: ʻAe, noʻonoʻo wau i ka mōʻaukala ke nānā mākou i nā ʻāina e like me Morocco, nā ʻāina e like me ʻAigupita, ʻoiaʻiʻo mai ka wā Victorian, ua nui nā ʻōlelo hoʻokalakupua gay ma waena o ʻApelika ʻĀkau. Ma ke ʻano he laʻana, ʻike mākou ʻo ka poʻe e like me Oscar Wilde e hele i laila. Aia kekahi… ma Morocco; ʻO ka mōʻaukala holoʻokoʻa i nā makahiki 1940 a me 1950 ʻaʻole i manaʻo ʻia nā kāne male kāne i ke Komohana, e hele ana i kēia mau ʻāina kahi i ʻike nui ʻia ai ka moekolohe, no laila ua loaʻa iā mākou kēlā niche mōʻaukala. Ke manaʻoʻiʻo nei au i loko o ka pōʻaiapili o ke kānāwai Shariat, ka mea e ʻae ai i kahi nui o ka hana ma kahi kūlana pilikino, ʻaʻole like ka homosexuality e like me ka nūhou e manaʻoʻiʻo ai mākou, no laila, aia kahi mākeke niche. Ua ʻike mākou aia nā hui, ʻo ia hoʻi no Morocco, ʻo ia hoʻi no ʻAigupita, ʻo ia hoʻi no Ioredane, ʻo ka ʻōlelo ʻana i nā wahi ʻoi aku ka liberal; ʻO ʻAigupita, ʻo ia ka manawaleʻa, aia no ka wehewehe. Ma waho aʻe o kēlā, inā ʻoe e nānā nei i ka niche marketing i nā kāne male kāne, ʻo ke aloha i ka mōʻaukala, ke aloha i ka hoʻolālā, ke aloha i ka moʻomeheu, he mea maoli ia e hiki ke hoʻohana ʻia i loko o kēia mau ʻāina.

eTN: No ka poʻe ʻike ʻole, he aha ka hewa o ka male kāne ma ka honua Muslim?
Luongo: ʻAe, ke noʻonoʻo nei au, a he mea hou kēia a ka puke e hoʻāʻo e kamaʻilio e pili ana, a he mea paʻakikī ke hoʻokomo i loko o kahi pōkā no ka nūhou. I ka hapa nui o nā ʻāina Muslim, ʻo kēia kahi palaki ākea, ʻaʻole ia e hana, no laila ʻaʻole pilikia ka hana ponoʻī. He mea maʻamau ia, i loko o ka pōʻaiapili o ka hapa nui o nā ʻāina Muslim, no nā kāne ke moe kāne me nā kāne, i ʻike ʻia a ʻike ʻole ʻia e ka lehulehu. ʻIke ʻoe ia mea maʻamau, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ma nā ʻāina e hoʻokaʻawale i nā kāne mai nā wahine, a pono nā kānaka e hōʻike i ka moekolohe. ʻAʻole like i ke Komohana, kahi a mākou e kau ai i nā lepili ma nā mea āpau, ʻaʻole pono ka poʻe ma ka Hikina Waena a me nā ʻāina Muslim e hōʻailona i ke ʻano ma ke ʻano he ʻike. ʻO ka pilikia i loko o ka nui o kēia mau ʻāina Muslim i ka wā e lilo ai ke ʻano i ʻike, a noi ka ʻike i ka ʻae politika. Ke ʻike nei mākou i nā pilikia ma ka Hikina Waena a me nā ʻāina Muslim, no kēia poʻe, a ke manaʻo nei au e ʻae ʻia nā kānaka e loaʻa nā kuleana kāne kāne i ka wā e hiki mai ana a i kēia manawa. ʻO ka mea a mākou e ʻike ai ma ka nūhou e pili ana i ka lilo ʻana i ʻike a me ka noi ʻana i ka ʻae politika. ʻO ia ka pilikia a mākou i ʻike ai ma ʻAigupita me ka Cairo 52. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu inā ua kamaʻāina ʻoe i ka hopu ʻia ʻana o ka… , a ua hoʻoholo ʻo Mubarak e hoʻopau iā ia. No laila ke ʻike nui ʻia, ke ʻike ʻia e hiki ke lilo i mea kālai'āina, ʻo ia ka pilikia. Ua ʻike mākou i kēlā ma Iran. ʻAʻole pili maoli ka puke iā Iran, akā ua ʻike mākou i ka wā i kamaʻilio ai ʻo Ahmadinejad e pili ana i ka loaʻa ʻole o nā kāne male e like me ʻoe ma ke Komohana, akā ʻo kāna mea e ʻōlelo nei, ʻaʻohe ʻano politika; ʻaʻohe ʻike e like me ke komohana. ʻAʻole i ka loaʻa ʻole o nā kāne kāne, akā ʻaʻohe o lākou mana politika. No laila, ʻo nā hakakā āu e ʻike ai, pinepine a me ka weliweli, e pili ana i ka lilo ʻana i ʻike e noi ana i ka ʻae politika. ʻO mākou, ma ke Komohana, ua ʻike i kēia mau mea weliweli. Ke hoʻomau nei mākou i ka ʻike ʻana i kēlā, akā he mea paha mākou i kamaʻāina ʻoi aku i ka 30 a i ʻole 40 mau makahiki i hala aku nei me nā kuleana kīwila o Iraq, ka neʻe ʻana i nā pono kīwila wahine, a me nā lā mua o ka neʻe ʻana i nā pono kīwila kāne.

eTN: Pehea i loaʻa ai kāu puke e ka lehulehu?
Luongo: E ʻōlelo wau ua kākau ʻia e pili ana i kēlā me kēia puke kāne kāne ma ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa. ʻO ka pilikia, ʻaʻole i loaʻa i ka puke ka nui o nā paʻi koʻikoʻi mai ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa. Ua loaʻa ka paʻi. ʻO ka New York Post ʻano hoʻohiwahiwa iā ia ma ka ʻaoʻao 6, akā he ʻano loiloi hoʻonaninani. Ua nānā ka Progressive iā ia; He loiloi maikaʻi loa ia, akā ʻaʻole i nānā nui ka paʻi koʻikoʻi iā ia. Ua loiloi maikaʻi ʻia ma ka nūpepa gay. A puni ka honua ʻōlelo Pelekania, inā mākou e nānā nei iā Kanada, inā mākou e nānā iā Beretania, ʻIlelani – ʻaʻole maopopo iaʻu i ka mea i hana ʻia ma Australia – ua loiloi maikaʻi ʻia ma ka paʻi pāʻani kāne a ma ka paʻi nui. ʻO kaʻu mea e ʻike ai, a manaʻo wau ʻo kēlā me kēia mea kamaʻāina me ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa a me kāna ʻike ʻana i ka honua, ʻaʻole maopopo mākou i ke koena o ka honua, no laila ʻike wau he nui nā paʻi kumu nui ʻaʻole maopopo i ka mea e hana ai. o ka buke. Ma nā wahi a pau aʻu e hele ai, ma ke ʻano o ka haʻi ʻōlelo a me ka heluhelu ʻana, ua hoʻokipa maikaʻi ʻia; Hele au i nā kūkākūkā nui. ʻO kekahi o nā mea aʻu i ʻike nui ai ma nā kulanui, ʻo ia nā wahine ʻōpio Muslim, nā wahine Muslim pololei, uhi pinepine ʻia, i kekahi manawa i ka chadur piha, e hele mai i nā hanana a komo i nā kūkākūkā fantastic. ʻO ka puke e pili ana i ka male kāne ma ka honua Muslim; aia nā pilikia pili i nā wahine ma ka honua Muslim, no laila ke komo nei mākou i kēia mau kūkākūkā maikaʻi, a ʻaʻole ia he mea aʻu i manaʻo ai. Ua liʻiliʻi ka hopena maikaʻi ʻole. Aia kekahi mau manawa ʻaʻole ʻoluʻolu loa ka poʻe Mahometa ʻAmelika i ke kūkākūkā ʻana i ka puke, akā ʻo ka hapa nui o ka poʻe e ʻoluʻolu loa i kā lākou kūkākūkā ʻana i ka puke, a ua nānā ʻia ma ka Arab American Monitor. Ua hana maikaʻi lākou i ka puke. No laila, ma ka laulā, inā e loiloi ʻia, ʻae ʻia. Ke lohe maoli ka poʻe i ka ʻōlelo, ua ʻae maikaʻi ʻia, ʻaʻole ia he mea paʻakikī. He mea paʻakikī ia i nā ʻAmelika e ʻike maikaʻi i nā wahi o ka honua.

eTN: Ua ʻōlelo ʻoe i kahi mea liʻiliʻi o ke kaiāulu Muslim - ma ka laulā, ma ʻaneʻi a ma waho, pehea i loaʻa ai iā lākou kāu puke?
Luongo: ʻAe, e haʻi aku wau iā ʻoe i kekahi mau mea hoihoi. Manaʻo wau he nui ka homophobia ma ʻAmelika a ʻaʻole mākou e kamaʻilio, a ke manaʻo nei au e ulu ana nā kaiāulu malihini i ka nui o ka homophobia e noho ana ma ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa. No laila, ʻo ia kekahi o nā mea aʻu i manaʻo ai ʻo ia kekahi o nā paʻakikī i ke kamaʻilio ʻana e pili ana i ka puke ma waena o ʻAmelika – ʻaʻole ma waena o ka poʻe ʻAmelika male kāne – ka poʻe Mahometa ma ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa a i ʻole nā kānaka mai nā ʻāina ʻē a i kā lākou mau keiki i hānau ʻia ma ʻaneʻi. ʻO kaʻu mea i ʻike ai i ke kamaʻilio ʻana me nā poʻe mai nā ʻāina Muslim, ʻike nui nā kānaka i kēia mau pilikia, akā ʻike pinepine lākou he paʻakikī ke kamaʻilio e pili ana i ko lākou mau ʻāina. ʻIke kekahi poʻe he mea hōʻoluʻolu ke hele nei kēlā kūkākūkā. He mea ʻakaʻaka kekahi i koʻu hāpai ʻana i kēia mau pilikia. Aia wau ma ka Hale Hōʻikeʻike Buke ʻo Lākana i ʻApelila; aia ma Lākana, akā ʻo ke kumuhana o ka ʻaha puke ʻo ka Middle East. No laila, loaʻa iā ʻoe nā mea paʻi ʻōlelo Arabic a pau a hiki iā lākou ke hele mai i Lākana, mai nā wahi a pau o ka honua Muslim, aia ma Ladana. A ua komo wau i loko o nā kūkākūkā maikaʻi me nā mea hoʻopuka mai ʻAigupita, mai Lebanona, a me nā poʻe mai Saudi Arabia, e pili ana i ke kumuhana o ka puke, a manaʻo wau… kēia mau pilikia, akā, aia kahi hopohopo e pili ana i ka mea e hiki mai ana inā e hoʻopuka ākea ʻia nā pilikia i loko o ka ʻāina. Ua hiki iaʻu ke komo i nā kūkākūkā maikaʻi ma Afghanistan e pili ana i ka male kāne me ka hopohopo ʻole no koʻu palekana. Ua hiki iaʻu ke komo i nā kūkākūkā ma Ioredane no kēia mau pilikia me ka hopohopo ʻole no koʻu palekana. No laila, pili ia i ka ʻāina, pili ia i ke kūlana, pili ia i ka hoʻokokoke ʻana, akā ma ka laulā, ua maikaʻi ka hapa nui o nā kamaʻilio. Manaʻo kekahi poʻe he mea ʻakaʻaka, a laila, ʻoiaʻiʻo, aia kekahi poʻe makemake ʻole e kamaʻilio pū me ʻoe.

eTN: Maikaʻi ke lohe. He aha kou manaʻo pilikino no ke kākau ʻana i ka puke?
Luongo: ʻAe, ʻo kahi hapa nui o koʻu manaʻo pilikino no ka kākau ʻana i kēia puke, a ua hoʻoikaika ia i kaʻu palapala huakaʻi a pau, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ma ka Hikina Waena a me nā ʻāina Muslim. He kanaka New York wau i ʻike pololei iā 9/11. Ua ʻeli au i loko o ka ʻōpala o nā hale kiaʻi māhoe i kekahi mau lā ma hope o ka hanana; ʻo ia ka Poaono ma hope, aʻu i manaʻo ai ʻo Sepatemaba ka 15.

eTN: ʻIke wau i kēlā.
Luongo: He mākaʻi koʻu kaikoʻeke, no laila ua ʻae ʻia kekahi poʻe kamaʻāina e komo i loko a kōkua i ka ʻimi ʻana i nā kupapaʻu. ʻO koʻu mau manaʻo mua, i koʻu kū ʻana ma ka honua zero, ʻo ia ʻo Beirut, ʻoiai ʻaʻole wau i hele i Beirut, a ʻōlelo wau iaʻu iho, i kēia manawa ua ʻike wau i ke ʻano o ka noho ʻana i kahi ʻāina i ʻeha i ke kaua e like me koʻu manaʻo. ʻAʻole i ʻike ka hapa nui o ʻAmelika - e kū i waena o ka ʻōpala. Ua hoʻohiki wau mai kēlā manawa, ma ke ʻano he mea kākau huakaʻi, e hoʻāʻo wau e noʻonoʻo i ka kipa ʻana i nā wahi a ka hapa nui o nā poʻe e makemake ʻole e kipa aku, a kākau e pili ana i kēlā mau ʻike. ʻOiaʻiʻo, he aha ka manaʻo o ka huakaʻi no ka maluhia, kahi mea a ʻoukou e kamaʻilio nui ai eTurboNews, a no laila ua hoʻoholo wau e kipa aku i Afghanistan, ua hoʻoholo wau e kipa i nā ʻāina Muslim like ʻole, ʻoiai i ka wā o Ramadan a kākau e pili ana i kēlā mau ʻike. ʻO kekahi o nā mea aʻu i hana ai no nā puke nui, no ka laʻana no ka New York Times, loaʻa iā lākou ka pou mua e pili ana i ka huakaʻi huakaʻi no ka New York Times i ka makahiki 2003, akā makemake nō hoʻi au e nānā i nā pilikia o ka male kāne i loko o kēia mau ʻāina no ka mea. Ua hoʻomaka ʻo ia e heluhelu i nā ʻāpana homophobic, i kākau ʻia e ka poʻe kākau moʻolelo kane pololei loa, ka mea i ʻike i kekahi o ka pili kāne kāne a i kuhi hewa paha i kekahi o ka pilina kāne i ʻae maoli ʻia i loko o ka hapa nui o nā ʻāina Muslim, a me nā ʻatikala e pili ana i ka Taliban paha he kāne kāne; Ua ʻoluʻolu ʻo Afghanistan i kekahi mau ʻano a me nā kūlana. No laila ua hoʻopiʻi kēia mau mea i koʻu hoihoi. Ua hana wau no Gay City News, ʻo ia ka nūpepa New York, he nūpepa New York gay, ua hana mākou i kahi moʻolelo ma 4 mau ʻāina Muslim like ʻole, aʻu i kākau ai, a ua hoʻoholo wau aia kahi puke ma kēia. Ma kekahi puke aʻu i hana ai ma mua o kēia, ka nui o ka poʻe i waiho i nā mokuna, kākau lākou e pili ana i nā ʻāina Muslim, a ʻōlelo wau iaʻu iho, maopopo he puke i loko o kēia, a no laila ʻo ia kahi ʻāpana o ka genesis o ka puke. ʻOiaʻiʻo, he ʻāpana ia o ka palapala aʻu i hana ai mai ka 9/11 ma nā ʻāina Muslim, e paipai ana i nā poʻe e kipa aku iā lākou, a laila hana ia ma ke ʻano he kāne male kāne, ʻo ia kekahi mea paʻakikī i kekahi o nā mea weliweli maoli. nā poʻomanaʻo a mākou e heluhelu pinepine ai e pili ana i kēia mau ʻāina mai nā manaʻo he nui. No laila ʻo ia kahi ʻāpana o ke kua i ke ʻano o ka hiki ʻana mai o ia mau makahiki.

eTN: ʻAe, maikaʻi loa. He mea paʻakikī paha ka heluhelu ʻana o ka puke, me ka nānā ʻole ʻana i ka moe kolohe - male kāne, pololei, a bisexual paha, he aha kāu. No ke aha ʻoe e manaʻo ai he aha kēia?
Luongo: He paʻakikī ka heluhelu ʻana me ka nānā ʻole i ke ʻano?

eTN: ʻAe.
Luongo: ʻAe, no ka mea ke kipa aku nei ia i nā wahi kaua, a ʻo ia wale nō ka puke aʻu i ʻike ai mai kahi hiʻohiʻona kāne kāne e nānā ana i nā wahi kaua. Hele ʻo ia i Iraq, kipa ʻo ia i Afghanistan, kipa i kekahi mau wahi e noʻonoʻo ai ka poʻe i nā aupuni Totalitarian, e like me ʻAigupita. Nānā i kekahi mau mea paʻakikī; ke nānā aku nei i kekahi mau mea ʻino, akā ke manaʻo nei au ʻo ka poʻe, me ka nānā ʻole i ko lākou manaʻo i ke aupuni o kekahi ʻāina, pono lākou e kipa aku i kēlā ʻāina inā hiki iā lākou, a me nā kānaka i nā kānaka, e pili ana i ka wāwahi ʻana i nā pale o nā ʻano āpau. Ua ʻike mākou, e noho ana ma ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, he nui ka poʻe, mai kā mākou hou - ʻaʻole ia ko mākou aupuni hou - akā mai ka hoʻololi ʻana i ke aupuni i ka makahiki 2000, ua hōʻole loa lākou e kipa aku i ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa. ʻO kēia kahi mea āu i uhi ai eTurboNews – ka emi ʻana o ka poʻe malihini kipa i ʻAmelika me ka hāʻule ʻana o ke kālā no ka mea ʻaʻole i mālama maikaʻi ʻia e ke aupuni - nā visa, nā kapu hou, nā manamana lima hou - ua mālama ʻia nā mea a pau ma ke ʻano he lawehala ke hele mai lākou i ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa. ʻO mākou, ʻo ʻAmelika, ʻaʻole maopopo iā mākou he pilikia kēia, akā ʻike mākou ma nā ʻāina ʻē aʻe, akā ʻo koʻu manaʻo, ʻoiai nā pilikia, ʻoiai ʻo kou manaʻo i ke aupuni o kekahi, he mea nui ia e paipai i nā kānaka e kipa i nā ʻāina ʻē me ka nānā ʻole i nā pilikia. Ua ʻike au i nā poʻe he nui ʻaʻole e kipa aku i ʻAigupita no ka mea, ʻōlelo lākou, ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke ʻike i ka poʻe ʻilihune. ʻIke au i nā poʻe he nui ʻaʻole e kipa aku iā Saudi Arabia - a ua uhi ʻia ʻo Saudi Arabia i ka puke - no ke ʻano o ka mālama ʻana o ka ʻāina i nā wahine, akā ʻo ka mea maoli, ma ke kipa ʻana i nā ʻāina ʻē, hana ʻoe i kahi kūkākūkā ʻAʻole hiki i nā aupuni wale nō ke hana, a ʻo ia kekahi o nā pilikia o ka puke a me kekahi o nā pilikia i loaʻa i ka poʻe me ka puke.

eTN: Mai kou hiʻohiʻona like ʻole, he aha nā ʻano paʻakikī e kū nei nā huakaʻi kāne kāne ke kipa lākou i kahi huakaʻi Middle East?
Luongo: ʻAe, manaʻo wau, ma muli o ka ʻāina, ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o ka wehe ʻole ʻana ma ke ʻano o ke Komohana. ʻO kekahi o nā mea e hoʻolei aku ai i nā poʻe he nui, ʻo ia ka paʻa lima o nā kāne ma Middle East a me nā ʻāina Muslim. ʻAʻole ia manaʻo inā he ʻAmelika ʻōmaʻomaʻo ʻoe, ʻulaʻula, pono ʻoe e hana like. ʻAʻole ia manaʻo ua ʻae ʻia… ke paʻa lima nā kāne Muslim, ʻaʻole ia he manaʻo he kāne kāne lākou. No laila ʻo ia kekahi o nā ʻōlelo aʻoaʻo - inā ʻoe e nānā i ke Komohana, ʻaʻole pono ʻoe e paʻa lima i ka lehulehu ma ke ʻano like, akā naʻe, makemake paha kekahi mau kāne e paʻa i kou lima, a ʻae ʻia kēlā inā hoʻomaka kekahi. He mea maikaʻi i nā kāne ʻelua ke kaʻana like i kahi moena, akā manaʻo wau he pilikia ka wehe ʻana ma ke ʻano o ke Komohana. Aia nā ala e hiki ai i nā kānaka ke komo i loko o kēia mau ʻāina e ʻōlelo ai he kāne kāne lākou me ka ʻole o ka ʻōlelo pololei ʻana he kāne kāne lākou. He 39 makahiki o'u, aole au i mare; ʻAʻohe aʻu hoaaloha i nā makahiki he nui - ke hoʻomaka ʻoe e kamaʻilio, a kamaʻilio ʻoe e pili ana i kēia mau mea, ʻike ka poʻe he kāne ʻoe, akā ʻaʻole lākou e ʻōlelo pololei, a maikaʻi ke ʻano like ʻole. no ka mea, ʻaʻole i ʻōlelo pololei ʻia. I kekahi manawa pololei loa wau, i kekahi manawa ʻaʻole pololei. No laila, ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o kēia ʻano kamaʻilio ʻana i kekahi mea. ʻO ia nā ala e… a ke manaʻo nei au he mea koʻikoʻi loa ka hoʻomanaʻo ʻana o ka poʻe Westerner gay - a ʻo ka Cairo 52 kahi haʻawina kūpono loa i kēia - ʻaʻole ʻoe i ka pōʻino ma ke ʻano he Westerner male kāne i loko o kekahi o kēia mau ʻāina, akā naʻe, ka poʻe male kāne, a i ʻole ka poʻe i moe kāne me nā kāne a i ʻole ke koho ʻana o kekahi e ʻike i loko o kēia mau ʻāina - hiki i kāu launa pū me kēia poʻe a me kāu kamaʻilio ʻana ke hoʻokomo iā lākou i kahi pilikia nui, a hoʻomanaʻo ʻoe e haʻalele, a noho lākou. No laila ʻaʻole no ʻoe ka pilikia akā no ka poʻe āu e kamaʻilio nei. Pono ʻoe e hoʻomanaʻo i kekahi mau ʻāina - he laʻana ʻo Dubai - ʻo ia ke ʻano o ka ʻimi ʻana i nā mākaʻikaʻi kāne kāne; Ua hana ʻo Emirates Airlines i kahi kūʻai pāʻani kāne kāne - hiki nō ke lilo i wahi maikaʻi loa inā he kāne kāne ʻoe, ʻoiai inā he kanaka pāʻani ʻoe ma ke komohana, ʻo ia hoʻi no nā poʻe kāne kāne mai nā wahi a puni e hana nei i loko o ka hōkele. a me ka ʻoihana mākaʻikaʻi, ʻo ia ka ʻoihana kāne kāne kūpono ʻole i ka ʻāina āu e noho ai. He mea maʻamau kēia me nā pilikia a pau i loko o nā ʻāina ʻAlapia a me Muslim, kahi ʻaʻole pololei ka poʻe i kekahi wahi. He ʻāpana wale nō ia o ka moʻomeheu, a me ke kūkākūkā ʻana i nā pilikia pili i ke kāne kāne a me ka male kāne - ua kamaʻilio ʻia a puni, a ʻo ia kekahi o ka moʻomeheu. ʻIke ʻoe i kaʻu ʻōlelo?

eTN: ʻAe.
Luongo: No laila, ʻo ia kekahi o nā ʻōlelo aʻo aʻu e hana pinepine ai i nā poʻe. ʻO ka ʻāina kūʻokoʻa loa e pili ana i nā pilikia pili i ka Middle East, ʻo ia ka ʻIseraʻela, akā ʻo ka ʻIseraʻela, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ua maʻalahi ia… inā he Karistiano ʻoe, ʻaʻole paha ʻo ia ka wahi maikaʻi loa; inā he Muslim ʻoe, ʻaʻole ia he wahi maikaʻi. No laila, ʻoiai ʻo ka ʻIseraʻela kekahi o nā mea kūʻokoʻa loa i nā pilikia gay, he nui nā pilikia ʻē aʻe. ʻO nā ʻāina e like me Ioredane he wahi liʻiliʻi ko lākou, ʻo nā ʻāina e like me Lebanona he ʻano nui o nā ʻoihana kāne kāne, a ʻo ka mea hoʻohenehene, ʻo nā ʻāina Farani, nāna i kākau i nā kānāwai e kūʻē i ka male kāne, ka ʻōlelo Farani mua, nā kolone Farani mua, ua kākau i nā kānāwai anti-homosexual i kēia manawa. e lilo i mea kūʻokoʻa loa i nā pilikia e pili ana i ka male kāne i hoʻohālikelike ʻia me nā ʻāina Pelekania. He ʻokoʻa maoli kēlā me kēia ʻāina. ʻO ka mea nui e kamaʻilio e pili ana i kahi pilikia a me ka hōʻoia ʻana i ka palekana o ka poʻe āu e kamaʻilio nei.

eTN: No laila, i kēia lā - i kēia lā - inā makemake kekahi e hele i ka Hikina Waena, ʻo ia - ua ʻōlelo ʻoe iā Lebanona, Ioredane, ʻIseraʻela - ʻo ia nā wahi palekana no lākou e hele ai?
Luongo: ʻAe, makemake wau i nā wahi palekana e hele ai. Hiki nō ʻo ʻAigupita. ʻO ka pilikia, he weliweli ko ʻAigupita… inā wau e paipai iā ʻAigupita, e haʻi mai nā mea hoʻoikaika he nui iaʻu, pono, e nānā i ka mea i hana ʻia i ko ʻAigupita - ka Cairo 52, he hopu weliweli ia o kēia mau kāne; ʻo ka hahau weliweli ʻana i loko o ka hale paʻahao, ka hoʻokolokolo ʻana me ka loio ʻole; He mea weliweli loa ka mea i hanaia i keia mau kanaka – i ka manawa like, ma ke ano he kanaka mākaʻikaʻi, he ʻano huakaʻi ʻē aʻe ia, inā e wehe ʻia ʻoe mai kēia mau mea ma ke ʻano he mākaʻikaʻi, akā, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo Jordan au i ʻike hiki iā ʻoe ke komo i loko o nā mea hoihoi loa. kamaʻilio ma kahi…

eTN: Ma Amman, ke kamaʻilio nei ʻoe?
Luongo: ʻAe, ma ʻAmman, a ma loko o nā wahi neoneo o Petra. Hiki iā ʻoe ke hoʻomaka i ke kamaʻilio ʻana me nā poʻe e pili ana i kēia mau pilikia, a he mea kupanaha i kekahi manawa ke hoʻopuka nei nā kānaka i kēia mau pilikia iā ʻoe. Inā ʻike lākou i kahi hui o nā kāne ʻekolu o kekahi mau makahiki e hui pū ana, ʻano manaʻo lākou, he kāne kāne kāne paha lākou a hoʻomaka lākou e kamaʻilio e pili ana i kekahi o kēia mau pilikia. No laila hiki ke hana. Aia kekahi mau ʻāina kahi i ʻoi aku ka paʻakikī o ke kūkākūkā ʻana i ka lehulehu, akā hiki ke hana ʻia, a ke manaʻo nei au he ʻano ʻano ka poʻe mākaʻikaʻi… a i ʻole he pilikia, a he weliweli ka pilikia o ka poʻe o ka ʻāina, ʻo ia. maʻalahi iki no ka poʻe ʻaʻole o ka ʻāina, i ko lākou kipa ʻana, akā ʻaʻole wau e paipai i kekahi e hoʻāla i nā kuleana pili kāne kāne a holo a puni me nā hae anuenue. Pono e hana ʻia nā mea…

eTN: ʻO ia ka nīnau aʻe. Ua nīnau au iā ʻoe i nā mea palekana; i kēia manawa, ʻo wai nā mea aloha kāne?
Luongo: ʻAe, he huaʻōlelo pili ka launa gay. E ʻōlelo maopopo wau he ʻāina aloha kāne ʻo Lebanona, ʻo ʻIseraʻela he ʻāina aloha kāne, ʻo Ioredane, e ʻōlelo wau i kahi kekelē, he ʻāina aloha kāne. Wahi a kekahi poʻe ʻo Morocco. Ua ʻike au ʻo ia ke ʻano, akā ʻaʻole ia he aloha kāne kāne e like me Kelemania… Inā mākou e hoʻohana nei i kahi huaʻōlelo kūʻai kūʻai komohana loa, ʻaʻole pili ia i ke ʻano like me kahi Muslim Middle Eastern.

eTN: ʻAe, ʻoiaʻiʻo.
Luongo: He aloha kāne kāne i loko o ka pōʻaiapili o kāna moʻomeheu ponoʻī.

eTN: Pololei.
Luongo: Manaʻo wau he ʻokoʻa koʻikoʻi loa ia – ʻaʻole like ia… ʻaʻole like ia me ka hele ʻana i Kelemānia a i Ladana…

eTN: Pololei, pololei, loa.
Luongo:…ʻo ia ke aloha kāne kāne, akā he aloha kāne kāne i loko o ka pōʻaiapili o kāna moʻomeheu.

eTN: He aha kāu e manaʻo ai e loaʻa i kāu poʻe heluhelu mai kēia puke?
Luongo: Manaʻo wau e loaʻa ana i ka poʻe heluhelu ka ʻike… mai ke kuanaʻike o ka huakaʻi, e loaʻa maopopo iā lākou ka ʻike ma waena o kēia mau ʻāina like ʻole, a manaʻo wau e wehe ʻia ko lākou mau maka mai kahi hiʻohiʻona huakaʻi i nā wahi a lākou - ʻaʻole mai kahi ke kuanaʻike kāne kāne - akā he mea hoihoi ia ke kipa ʻana a he mea hoʻokipa maikaʻi ke kipa. Manaʻo wau he mea nui loa, e ʻike nā kānaka i ka laulā a me ka hohonu o ka honua Muslim. Ke nānā nei mākou i nā ʻāina mai ʻApelika Komohana a hiki i Bangladesh. No laila ke nānā nei mākou i ka hui holoʻokoʻa o nā ʻāina Muslim a pehea ka ʻokoʻa o kēlā me kēia. Ke ku nei au ma Kapalakiko nei; Aia ʻoe i Honolulu i kēia manawa – aia mākou i ka honua Kalikiano, me ka nānā ʻole i ko mākou manaʻo. ʻO ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, ʻEulopa, ʻAmelika Hema - ʻo kēia ka honua Kalikiano, akā ʻaʻole mākou e hoʻohana i ka huaʻōlelo, ka honua Kalikiano, aia wau i ka honua Kalikiano, ke hele nei au i ka honua Kalikiano, a maopopo loa ʻo Paris, Texas. ʻokoʻa mai Paris, Farani, he ʻokoʻa loa ia mai Brazil a me Denmark i ko lākou pili ʻana i ka hoʻomana Karistiano a me ka homosexuality. No laila, ʻo kaʻu mea e kuhikuhi ai i loko o ka puke ʻo ia i ka honua Muslim, he honua nui, he honua like ʻole. ʻOkoʻa kēlā me kēia ʻāina, a ma kahi i hoʻopā ai ʻo Islam, ʻokoʻa kēlā me kēia wahi, a ʻokoʻa ka hōʻike ʻana o Islam i loko o kēlā me kēia mau wahi. No laila, ʻo ia kekahi mea e loaʻa ai i nā kānaka. Manaʻo wau e hana pū kekahi poʻe - inā he kāne kāne a pololei paha lākou - e hoʻomaka lākou e hoʻomaopopo ʻoiai ʻo nā poʻomanaʻo ʻeleʻele a me ke keʻokeʻo, a ʻoiai nā kiʻi, aia paha, nā kāne male kāne e kau ʻia ana ma Iran, ʻoiai nā kiʻi. ʻO ka poʻe, malia paha, ke ʻoki ʻia i ke poʻo ma Saudi Arabia, aia nā ala e hiki ai ke hōʻike ʻia nā pilikia pili i ka male kāne a me ke kāne male i loko o ka pōʻaiapili o kēia mau moʻomeheu a ʻoi aku ka nui o nā mea ma mua o nā mea a mākou e heluhelu ai ma kahi nūpepa. Ma nā maka o kēia mau huakaʻi he 18, ʻo wau pū kekahi, manaʻo wau e wehe i kahi honua hou ākea loa no kēlā me kēia mea heluhelu i ka puke, inā he kāne kāne a pololei paha.

eTN: He mau manaʻo hou aʻe?
Luongo: ʻAe, makemake au e wehewehe ʻaʻole he mea paʻakikī ka puke iā Islam, ʻaʻole ia he… Manaʻo wau he ala ia e ʻike ai nā ʻAmelika i kekahi mau ʻano o ka Islam. ʻAʻole ia he mea paʻakikī iā ia a i ʻole ka mākaʻi. ʻAʻole i manaʻo ʻia he puke e… ʻAʻole ia he puke pua e hoʻokumu i ka hoʻopaʻapaʻa, ʻoiai ke manaʻo nei kekahi poʻe. He puke maoli ia e wehe i nā maka o ka poʻe i nā ala like ʻole e hiki ai iā lākou ke hoʻokokoke i nā ʻāina Hikina Waena a me Muslim. ʻO ka manaʻo e hana i kahi kūkākūkā ma mua o ka ʻoki ʻana i ke kamaʻilio ʻana, a ua manaʻo ʻia e paipai i nā ʻAmelika, ʻEulopa a me nā poʻe mai nā ʻāina Hikina Hikina ponoʻī e ʻano hoʻoikaika i ko lākou mau palena ponoʻī a nānā paha i nā mea ma nā ʻano like ʻole a me nā ala hou a e ho'āʻo i ko lākou manaʻo ponoʻī e pili ana i nā manaʻo like ʻole i loaʻa iā lākou, inā paha e pili ana i nā pilikia pili i ke kāne a i ʻole e pili ana i ka ʻike ʻana i nā ʻāina like ʻole… pono no ka poʻe e aʻo ana i ka huakaʻi. ʻAʻole ia he puke alakaʻi. ʻO ia kahi mea aʻu e makemake ai e wehewehe. Manaʻo ka poʻe he puke alakaʻi ia, a makemake ʻoe e ʻimi i nā wahi ma Amman, nā wahi ma nā wahi a pau, akā he puke maoli ia e pili ana i nā ʻike moʻomeheu.

eTN: Pehea kāu puke kūʻai naʻauao?
Luongo: ʻAe, maikaʻi loa ke kūʻai aku. ʻO ka pilikia, hiki i ka puke ke hana maoli, ʻoiaʻiʻo, maikaʻi loa ke kūʻai aku, akā ʻo ka mea i hana ʻia, ma hope o ka paʻi ʻia ʻana o ka puke a i ka wā i paʻi ʻia ai nā paʻi a pau, ua kūʻai ʻia ka hui nāna i hoʻopuka i kahi hui ʻē aʻe - Taylor lāua ʻo Francis - no laila no ʻelua mahina ua hoʻōki lākou i ka paʻi ʻana i ka wā i hoʻololi ai lākou, a i kēia manawa, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ke paʻi nei lākou. No laila, maikaʻi ke kūʻai aku i ka wā e loaʻa ai, i ka wā hiki iā lākou ke hoʻouna aku a hiki iā lākou ke kiʻi i loko o nā hale kūʻai, kūʻai aku. Ma kēlā ʻano hana maikaʻi loa ia ma ka honua ʻōlelo Pelekania. Manaʻo wau e hana i kahi unuhi ʻōlelo Arabic a me kahi unuhi Farani no ka hāʻawi ʻana i ka Middle East. Manaʻo wau he puke koʻikoʻi ia e lawe mai i ka Hikina Waena, a inā hiki iā mākou ke hana i kēlā ma ka ʻōlelo Arabic a i ʻole hiki iā mākou ke hana i kēlā ma ka ʻōlelo Palani, inā hiki ke hoʻolaha ʻia ma ka ʻōlelo Pelekania e like me ia, ʻo ia kekahi mea aʻu e manaʻo nei e loaʻa. hiki ke hana.